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「我離港前到過一間精神科醫院。當時有位病人禮貌地問,一個以作為世上最悠久民主政體而自傲的國家,如何能夠將此地交給一個政治制度非常不同的國家,且既沒諮詢當地公民,又沒給予他們民主的前景,好讓他們捍衞自己的將來。一個隨行同事說,奇怪,香港提出最理智問題的人,竟在精神科醫院。」彭定康 金融時報

“During a visit to a mental hospital before I left Hong Kong, a patient politely asked me how a country that prided itself on being the oldest democracy in the world had come to be handing over his city to another country with a very different system of government, without either consulting the citizens or giving them the prospect of democracy to safeguard their future. Strange, said one of my aides, that the man with the sanest question in Hong Kong is in a mental hospital.”Chris Patten Financial Times

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Saturday, January 27, 2007

When Harry Met Sally (1989)

When Harry Met Sally...(1989)
香港譯成”90男歡女愛“因為在90年才在港上映




A 1989 film written by Nora Ephron, and directed by Rob Reiner. Starring Billy Crystal as Harry and Meg Ryan as Sally.

The film raises the question "Can men and women ever just be friends?" and "advances many ideas about love that have become household concepts now, such as the " high maintenane" girlfriend and the "transitional person".





The story goes:
When Harry and Sally finish college at the university in Chicago and are off to New York to begin their careers. The movie records a couple of snippets of their conversations during this trip, which center on male-female relationships. During one such conversation, Harry states this rule, "men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way." In New York, they depart less than friendly.


Harry and Sally met five years later in a New York airport, and found themselves on the same airplane. Both are in relationships. During this encounter, Harry elaborates on his previous rule:
"…They can't be friends…unless both of them are involved with other people. Then they can. This is an amendment to the earlier rule. If the two people are in relationships, the pressure of possible involvement is lifted. That doesn't work either. Because what happens then is the person you're involved with can't understand why you need to be friends with the person you're just friends with, like it means something is missing from the relationship and wanted to go outside to get it. Then when you say, 'No, no, no, no, it's not true, nothing is missing from the relationship,' the person you're involved with then accuses you of being secretly attracted to the person you're just friends with, which you probably are—I mean, come on, who the hell are we kidding, let's face it—which brings us back to the earlier rule before the amendment, which is men and women can't be friends." Again they separate less than friendly.



Five years later, Harry and Sally met again in a New York bookstore. By now, their earlier relationships have ended. Then their "JUST " friends relationship began, their relationship during the next two years as they become very close friends. During this period, the two are not romantically involved with each other, but are actively dating others. Their conversations during this period explore the topics of relationships and sex.


Then one night Sally called and ask Harry to come over, her ex-boy friend just sent her an invitation note for his wedding, she was upset crying and blaming herself. Eventually, Harry and Sally have sex with each other, which becomes a barrier to their friendship. Can they overcome this barrier ?? That left to be discovered in the ending of the movie.



Several classic scenes on the movie were being recorded and presented on YOUTUBE
youtube scens about "When Harry met Sally"
here are the two I have selected for you






前因:
讀到別人的”博s“ 談 <生日快樂> 劉若英﹑古天樂 主演 女的只願維持好朋友關係﹐因為怕失去。這令我想起N年前的一部西片”When Harry Met Sally" 談的是 Can men and women ever just be friends? 首映時我沒有看過﹐我只是幾年後從電視看過﹐之後找到了VCD﹐是一個頗有趣的故事。




後記:
本片有很多 famous quotes 被輯錄下來,維基百科有幾段,其中最經典的是:
"How about this way? I love that you get cold when it's 71 degrees out. I love that it takes you an hour and a half to order a sandwich. I love that you get a little crinkle above your nose when you're looking at me like I'm nuts. I love that after I spend the day with you, I can still smell your perfume on my clothes. And I love that you are the last person I want to talk to before I go to sleep at night. And it's not because I'm lonely, and it's not because it's New Year's Eve. I came here tonight because when you realize you want to spend the rest of your life with somebody, you want the rest of your life to start as soon as possible. "


後後記:
When Harry Met Sally 2 Billy Crystal still plays Harry with Helen Mirren as Sharon (看片 trailer)



我的舊文:
Nora Ephron passed away


8 comments:

梁巔巔 said...

有時, 香港oD譯名好差~

梁巔巔 said...

唉, 我啱啱轉咗新版, 以前同而家留言者嘅名字, 如 Space 兄你所說, 名字一攔變成密碼 (英文名字除外)!

Blogger 真係, 整個新版出嚟, 又話點正點好, 呢 oD小小瘕垢都唔執! X!

Aulina Chan said...

再講:香港西劇唔係「譯」架!通當都係片主自度或搵市務度,從來唔係「譯」架。

呢套我記得有個這樣的插曲。話說當時香港商人知道這片在美國能賣,所以請了幾位仁兄一齊睇試片,在場個個睇完咁講:「好悶咋喎,點上呀?」。只有一個(我原文照錄架咋下)大學生這樣說:「裡面用了不少俚語,很多我聽不明白,找人翻了再看可以嗎?」

第二次睇字幕版,個個明哂d笑位響邊,之後就出咗個咁嘅戲名喇。

marketing大忌no.1 千萬不要給產品名加上年份....

the inner space said...

同意娜姐所言不要加個年份﹐其實片中話題還是適用於今天的。

這部片讓我認識了Billy Crystal﹐他最近幾年都是OSCAR 金像獎的HOST直到前年一屆後﹐他自說江郎才盡﹐退位讓賢。去屆的不成今年換個女的。

Billy 除了和Robert De niro 幾部談笑片外﹐還有較早期的CITY SLICKERS 一二集﹐都是和去年十一月去世的Jack Palance 合作的。我只喜歡第一集﹐有暇在這博談談。

the inner space said...

"只有一個(我原文照錄架咋下)大學生這樣說:「裡面用了不少俚語,很多我聽不明白,找人翻了再看可以嗎?」"

第二次睇字幕版,個個明哂d笑位響邊,之後就出咗個咁嘅戲名喇。



恕我遲鈍看完之後好像一o的意由未盡但又講唔出來一覺醒來突然想起那大學生一定是娜姐至親否則誰會記得這麼清楚。

mad dog said...

係好印象深刻既一齣電影, 睇時仲讀緊書, 都未正式拍過拖.
前排(dec 27)響blog度都有提過呢齣戲. 我講既係, 好多人都鍾意"when harry met sally"呢套戲, 因為我地都好憧憬呢種事會發生響自己身上.

xiao zhu said...

怕失去,所以不開始;很有共鳴。

男人和女人可否成為朋友?當然可以。男人和女人可否成為好朋友?也不是不可以,只是中間或多或少都會經歷一些曖昧的階段。如果能夠在過程中成功理清這些曖昧,好朋友的關係才會較為穩固長遠,否則,隨時都有機會出事。

由好朋友變為情人,自是美事。由情人變成好朋友,其實也不算少,但是要兩人的感情投放相約對等才容易成功。這的確是有難度的,處理得不好,會演變出更多悲劇;不過有難度當然並不等於沒可能,但這真的沒有定律。

情之為何物,往往是天堂地獄一線間。

the inner space said...

哈哈!點解當時我冇回應到嘅?漏咗?
兩位阿姐所言都是很有見地的。
遲到好過冇到!E+兩年後原來又可能唔同冧法。



Mad Dog姐:
Those were the days 歲月留情!
但翻看 When Harry Met Sally 都幾經典,同朋友閒聚談笑間,原來同一generation的,頗多人看過及喜歡這電影。好一些是像我,不是首映在戲院看的,而是之後經過書本報章重提起,再去找到VCD影碟影帶,而知道及看過這部 『90男歡女愛』!

小朱姐:
真喺天堂地獄咁簡單?
Well 個人認為男方永遠有個做 guardian angel 守護天使的心態,縱然女方已經嫁了另一位男人,男方已經另娶了她人。